tv Political Violence and Terrorism in Latin America CSPAN August 24, 2017 5:41pm-7:34pm EDT
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called the islamic terrorism or extremism as if they were making a difference that they are all the same. and with those muslim populations is quite obvious that vast majority are not terrorists. so for those claiming the tax of violence those that claim to be long into the islamic faith isis is losing
it has been induced by the number of actions through social media which is something we want to talk about. communities around the world is becoming something to take into account. i will say, unfortunately this is a rather safe bet. somehow, in some of those modern communities radicalization has taken place. we have to think about the willingness and reactions to reality. we have to think about what i would consider to be the basic code of conduct by communities, civil societies, governments in the fight against terrorists. i will start by saying you have to think about the
possibility of terrorist activities. you have to develop your own intelligence. you have to be aware of national and regional security committee you have to have good police, you have to develop and play the role and provide viewpoints. they can play useful role. you have to have laws and terrorism is not to be considered similar to criminal activities. you have to develop a significant degree of control,
you have to have a way to look into the document so people crossing the borders, you have to be aware there's a number of international controls that are absolutely vital through the financial asked action task force which is one of them main bodies through the financing of terrace. we have some which i will mention briefly. i think it's been significantly improving actions against terrorism in recent times. i think it lacks a significant focus on terrorism and they do not want to accept the idea.
chile, bolivia. [inaudible] the significant lack of control when watching what is happening in this country right now. whatever you may think about those actions, you realize the control between the border of mexico and the united states, you can be rather concerned about the border of mexico as well. criminal violence goes beyond what's considered normal up to the point.
violence in the conflict in colombia took years, thousands of lives up to the point where people could think of was not a civil war or a conflict between two equal sides. it's been such a long environment conflict. there were terrorist groups fighting against the state for a number of years. as i mentioned before, those terrorists were moving either on the criminal side of the
political terrorist side. they need negotiation to meet the request of both sides. from that you.they might like to make an adjustment of how they did or what they did, but they do not want to hear very much from international organizations in particular from the united nations. the united nations has been, and i respect the right of countries to do what they feel like doing but the united nations was very clearly kept apart from the negotiation.
when thinking about the case of terrorism which might eventually affect regular countries in the world, i think we have to mind some rules or behavior which are basic. the first one is. [inaudible] that is a basic rule. if terrace are granted impunity, that is an ability to continue with terrorism. specific roles should be given to the victims as examples of suffering that has been induced by terrorists and they need too. [inaudible] up there point is you have to
have the rule of law as a basic principle of the governing of terrorism or any other activity. the notion for transitional justice. [inaudible] we hear this idea that the victims are being forgotten in the post- conflict. the idea that there is a way to circumvent the process of the rule of law. it is extremely dangerous to keep the peace, democracy, prosperity. in the end, i will draw some
conclusions. there's not such a thing as absolute security. we have to try and balance. i understand the willful ignorance of the threats so even trying to go further doesn't make. [inaudible] better to be well prepared and nothing happened than to be not prepared at all. [inaudible] they need to develop better and stronger attitude in face of eventual terrorist threat
spread that should be a consequence to join forces and achieve more prosperous, democratic state of affairs. i sincerely believe there is still time to do that. thank you very much for your attention. >> hello. with your permission. [inaudible] you want to explain how contemporary terrorists all around the world are seducing people. [inaudible] a lot of my explanation. [inaudible]
[inaudible] they didn't see any word of religion. were talking about this but this is a new way. there are groups presenting themselves to the population. this model mos only happen in iraq and syria, this happens here. of course. [inaudible] this is not only one example. this is our custom. this is a strategy that isis has started in july 2014 and until now and they are aiming to seduce generations all around the world.
he's the main character of a video game or mission impossible, something like that. but obviously they are not presenting themselves praying in the middle of the desert or in the mosque. this is contemporary and aim to seduce people all around the world. so how. [inaudible] they have submitted social media like this one. they seduce people around the world. [inaudible]
the mother of perception doesn't look like propaganda for isis it looks like an independent agency. had to be really aware and know this is not an independent because the images. the radio station, website, producers they have only four different things. interviews with terrorists from all over the world, they see them as a powerful army.
this is fake news they are corrupt and violent. it is a populist movement in syria. they need to pay attention to the importance of showing we are doing good will. this is all the public services we are creating in the region of iraq. the roads and electricity and water, commerce building. [inaudible]
if some of the groups repeat what isis is doing their risk of terrorist movements -- [inaudible] and i'd be more than happy to answer your questions. perfect, thank you. [applause] >> good morning. i would like to start with expressing my gratitude to you and the ambassador for this invitation. i am going to speak about venezuela and the main part of
my presentation is about political violence and i'm also going to speak about terrorism. i will start with two quotations the first one from -- what we fail to achieve we will do with weapons. it's been more than a year and communist rule in cuba and that's why the second is from -- the hatred of the enemy which
pushes beyond the limitation of the human being makes it an effective violent killing machine. this killing machine has been working for venezuela in the last few months but it started long ago. the history of venezuela is the threat of clinical violence. in our work one third of the population -- from the beginning of the 19th century through the second half of the 20th century violence was the usual way to reach power and to retain power in venezuela. we have to wait until 1964 in order to see for the first time an elected president ending his term of office is elected in 58
and gain power through his successor in a free election. in 1959 to 1999, presidents were elected by the venezuelan people. nevertheless the violence was still there. from 1959 to 1960s there were several failed military groups against democratic government and following the cuban example. we had guerrilla warfare for almost 10 years with a lot of violence of course and
politicalization by the third president and the role of elected president. in 92 the violence came back when then lieutenant colonel -- failed in the coup d'état and there were more than 400 people who lost their life in this attempt and six years later a free election and in the middle of an economic and social and political crisis. with chavez the violence was
everyday more present in venezuela and political life. the kind of government of the democracy was the end of the rule of law in the checks and balances and what is more important is it was a time of intolerance. it divided the venezuelan into sides the revolutionary and -- [inaudible] in 2004 there were said to against it pairs that fail. and there were a lot of elections under chavez were free but one has to say chavez the
majority of the venezuelan people supported. more than 30 political leaders. [inaudible] a handful of politicians were in jail. time after time we saw at lack of freedom of press freedom, and human rights violations per militarily -- paramilitary governments. a very huge corruption. [inaudible] and mainly because there was no
investigative power. the press was silenced and corruption was free and there was an excessive cuban -- [inaudible] venezuela is kind of a cuban colony. he came in the middle, when chavez died in the middle of an economic crisis. he started before chavez death it was a consequence of economic policy which failed. he was elected by a very narrow margin.
[inaudible] a governor or a mayor of a city with select did to a position they our day had constitutional powers and the budget too. there was a referendum in 2007 to change the constitution. he said the constitution of 1999 was the best but he tried to change it in order to establish a socialist government in venezuela. he was the first --
[inaudible] what happened after that of the 40, 39 were ordered in venezuela by the parliament against the constitution but only one of the people said no. in venezuela there are more than bordered and 50 political prisoners and among them you see here in the picture the mayor of the city of caracas and 13
mayors opposition mayors are in jail or exiled and an attorney general appointed by the president here in the united states but he's not a part of the cabinet. he was a loyalist but she was fired and now she has to go into exile because she was going to be sent to jail. in 2016 the electoral authorities refuse to hold a referendum. there was a signature asking for recall but they said no it's not possible. we have no time and we have no
money and the elections were postponed. the same argument, they said the economic crisis there wasn't a luxury to spend money on elections when there were so many problems with the economy. in less than three years at the time of economic disaster and this year 2017 is a year of political -- [laughter] i forgot -- i have it here. okay, here we are. [inaudible] we have the black are good. you can buy the u.s. dollar if
as you see the last is for 2017 and we are in the middle of the year. we are absolutely sure that it was going to increase and we have at the end of the year almost 50% less of gdp. you have seen in newspapers and tv people eating from garbage. it is 80% in 2016 and a lot higher right now. in april of 2017 of this year a judgment by the supreme court
deprived constitutional power and a popular uprising with a pool of 159 deaths death. 5000 people were arrested and 2000 were -- mainly civilians but mainly by military courts. there is violence and here is an integer string gentleman. he's the speaker of the national assembly. the second one is a congresswoman.
[inaudible] and the fourth one is a congressman. there were a lot of political leaders. in the last months there have been two very interesting political events. and july the position called for new form of referendum because the electoral authorities united incorporation with the popular popular -- but this referendum venezuelans went to the polls and voted against maduro. 15 days later the government had an election.
[inaudible] 3 million people went to vote and the result was 8 million votes. it was the most important vote in the history of latin america. we come back to political violence. in venezuela we have terrorism in the way of taking power in the 60s. at the end of the decade but we had from the beginning of the 21st century is
state-sponsored terrorism. first of all these violent paramilitary groups killing and destroying people, destroying private property and controlling parts of the city and parts of the country. parts of the city of caracas and an important part of the venezuelan territory especially the colombian border by a mix of resources from venezuela and colombia. there are two links with international terrorist groups. venezuela has no information but
[inaudible] chavez made arrangements with the farc leadership in colombia. there are terrorists and drug traffickers. venezuela became a part of the drug trafficking. a very important in north america into europe and with the complicity eight of the authorities. there were important links with iran and venezuelan banks and
venezuelan companies were away to avoid existing sanctions and has below the terrorist organizations. first of all a safe haven and facilities on the colombian border. they were training camps. there was a hospital. there were places -- the colombian army. the second is venezuelan passports. you may have seen on tv "cnn"
he didn't speak spanish and the other venezuelan passport. i didn't know p. was the terrorist are not but he had a passport. there was money laundering for the farc and hezbollah and the venezuela embassy -- [inaudible] regular elections were scheduled there was discussion and venezuelan opposition. the majority participated in these elections.
a very important question is if there's a possibility of the war in venezuela. but now what we have is a war against civilians because if you want to have a war you must have both sides armed and in venezuela that's not the case. even several army facilities were robbed and -- and nobody knows where they are right now. there were popular uprisings in caracas.
[inaudible] there are lots of rumors that maduro is no longer useful and he's going to be deposed. the second is international pressures and national tensions and demonstrations in venezuela and military unrest will lead to a general election and the third is an idea that the majority of venezuelan leadership doesn't want a foreign military intervention. you perhaps heard president trump this weekend saying other solutions are possible besides a military one but we will see. [applause]
countries around the world. this is something that unfortunately is not that easy to control the borders. even if you go for can control the borders but the fact that their moving stuff, those in europe or other countries, they are people with the passports. [inaudible] [inaudible] those has never traveled to iraq and syria. so if you want to say they want
to close the borders it would be nothing there getting legalized in their own country. this is a challenging part for this. she's in new york and a member of the -- venezuela. she said that she has some means, more than her salary she doesn't go very often to the delegation, but she says with all this money should not be able to go. the name that they use in venezuela that has representation is the president,
you hear links with the middle east. if you're working you're talking about the father was from syria it was sanctioned by the president of the united states. $500 million were in his to freeze his accountant properties in the u.s. 500 million, that's a good he has in the states. i'm is a private man he must have bank accounts and other countries. the $500 million were free steer in the united states. >> on the side.
>> i'm from the foundation of the defense of democracies. i'm interested now in the trip to brazil and her accusations of linking majuro and all the leader party members to the scandal and coming back to talk about good governance and being able to use laws that are ready put in place so to start prosecuting these people, do you think this would be a good way to start legal proceedings into the corruption of the venezuelan government using the already created case against these people? >> thank you. ms. ortega has a lot of information because she was not with the regime from the beginning. and she knows everything and that's her reason because she
knows everything and that is like the mafia. [inaudible] on this information is the same that the company and friends in mexico has all the contracts of importation and that the spanish company owned by two causes when who is the chairman of the assembly received contract from a payback of $100 million.
and i think they have more information. >> there is another part to the question? >> is the problem corruption or information. and now information was mainly from defectors or from the press. this one is a very big defect. >> i'm with the federal government for democracy. i would like to know if you have any information about any links between the gangs and organize terrorist groups. some of you talk about the problems of the region, a lot of corruption and weak institution. so, i think it's very dangerous
is something can happen in that region. >> great answer her great question. understand that isis has one in syria and iraq, one of the most correct country in the world. if the uprisings happen to business between institutions and the feeling of isolation between public or the lack of delivery of public service on this is happened with these situations, there's extremist
groups and the efficient, the social upset created by the corruption but the engagement into the country, whatever. the reason there are some similar characteristics and what could happen if they had that intelligence and they try to internalize the level of frustration in the same way. maybe we would find some common characteristics and regarding the gangs, possibly they go into space that there was no person.
activities of the other protection are the state and you have to be very worried as we have if you have a government like ours. >> my question goes toward solutions focusing on venezuela but i'd like to open it up to the entire panel. how do you dismantle an 8 billion-dollar multinational drug distribution network that uses 2000 generals, in the u.s. we have 50, plus the national guard network. to grow internationally?
>> does anybody have cancer to the. >> there is not one answer, there's a number of them. but of the government, i mentioned the financial action task force which is extremely effective, they do not have operational powers. they don't have the police but they do have the means to find out who is doing what in the states and they do it
effectively. that's initiative that was taken by the g7 summit. a number of countries not all of them belong to that but if you follow, just google fatf and you'll find accommodations i would get extremely to the point in terms of fighting that is the problem, the fatf is one that has been used in the community when i can tell you that it's extremely effective in finding out who is doing what which is the amount of money but sometimes they send it to the government. the other day would talk to the government so we said this is one of the things were tracing. this is why we need international sanctions corporation. but, the department here are extremely effective. extremely effective.
and i'm convinced that with all the sanctions that are being put right now venezuelan stuff, maduro they might be effective and they might be able to cut short the activities of the government. we all ready know hundreds of millions of dollars so, that corporation of entities would be able to see what would solve the whole problem is and we have to figure about others. and there's a number of problems. south africa, you go on and on and on. but we look into the western world and europe and the united
states with a number of nations in the hemisphere and some ancient countries as well and we find this will that is the power and again, i don't have all of the answers. >> there is a cartel in venezuela. in venezuela. [inaudible] but all of the generals are not like that. and military officer. it is not very difficult, everyone knows because when you
have this kind of money you don't hide it. everybody know who is who in venezuela. that is how marco rubio, the chairman of the national -- [inaudible] and the names are known. as three easy to spot -- in columbia. one of the ways an officer became easily -- is. [inaudible] all of the navy who suspend the
navy in that country. when the state it is very difficult to defeated. but when the state has to fight there's a lot of things to look. one of them is international corporation. one of the first things that challenge does president was -- because he saying they were all -- and there is no kind of collaboration between the foreign and venezuela are with the eruption of politics. that's not, that's not going to stop it is possible to make
their life very more difficult. >> one final question. >> hello. my question is for the guy, like how many channels does isis have an social media in spain or other countries? and also what are they doing to prevent that on the content more or less, and also in barcelona a few weeks ago said going to being groups like we're seeing attacking a group of friends? are those with the same content or do they have to go alone?
these bots and they do like 1500 every campaign. now they are doing water every two days. the numbers the companies are doing a lot at the beginning to do the research was like the links of videos that are able for months now, those links and those videos remain for two or four hours that's a long companies take. at the same time isis is working on getting people lick through direct links and regarding the
stereotypes, the problem or challenge of this is that they don't follow up. to say that this is the pattern of the new terrorists, to establish like the problem of this is that it's very simple. so you can find only in the last two years. there is an attack in paris and brussels. cells created by isis they had people in syria and made these people travel to europe. they have a structure to have weapons, ak-47s and they are
buildings where they can hide so that is one model. and then they follow the instruction of isis and social media and they come to attack a night and you find their house. and then you find some that like you got together and they find some from outside the coordinates everything but we don't have that evidence so i think it be like to try to establish because is going to break other kind of models, so yes we have to see the facts and was going on in every case. >> is a said before it's quite
ignorant but it's quite evident that the vast majority if not to say all those who practice or call islamic terrorism faithful. this is something we need to take into account. we can see muslim communities here and there. there welcome. the muslim community has been coming here for ages, it's not a recent phenomenon. when you go to any practical latin american country you find people called terrorists. iraq is have lived there for generations.
so that's another factor. as follow those in recently modern generations but we have to take into account that it's making headways there. and we have to count on them and the members of those coming who are not -- and yes you have to find out what's going on in barcelona in which any man how are they realize we don't know. when i was through isis or social media, whatever it was radicalized there are wondering in the name of islam was promoting then you have to take that into account so this is a
good point. we do have this is a human being friction, we do have to tell those communities our working there that in general there are in school and the advantages. at the same time we have to respect the local institutions. and from that viewpoint i think we should follow the american. it's not to say the united states is free from that but we can remember it was not organized by people leaving the united states. in the case of islamic terrorism taken very few cases in the united states, it's not significant because of the numbers are the other things but
we are not significant because whoever is modeling living in the united states know the full respect of the constitution provided respect to the constitution. this is something that not happen in europe. in the united kingdom we have in france, in london, from that viewpoint they're being ruled by the laws of the country. this is something that we can't have the response because as they pointed out there's a number of factors but a significant part of the response. they do not integrate that we will sooner or later will face
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